As presented at Darwin on the Palouse 2016. Dr. Carrier discussed the ancient debate between creationists and natural selectionists, how ancient "intelligent design" advocates were far more scientific than their counterparts today, and what this means for the actual origins of real science. In the process he surveyed the achievements and methods of ancient science and how it laid the foundation for modern science, and then examine the rhetoric against it by early Christians and how it hasn't changed in near 2,000 years.
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